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Post by Sandy on Jul 2, 2008 23:39:03 GMT -5
Kenyon please post your question/statement here.
Cody + Andi please reply with your answers here as well.
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Post by kenyon on Jul 3, 2008 7:39:38 GMT -5
Congratulations to both of you, you both rock my *rooster* I've had a very fun time playing the game with you both, even though the styles of our games were vastly different. You all lied to everyone, including me (multiple times) to get where you were, not saying I never stretched the truth or anything, but Andi I really do believe you had a final two alliance with practically everyone (including the bush next to the latrine). However, despite the crap, and drama and lies, I really enjoyed getting to know you both, but Cody as you stated in your opening statements, you said "anything to anyone" to get to the end. So maybe, I never really got to know the real you, despite the cute sentiment about how you were always honest with everyone, which is a contradiction to what you said five seconds beforehand. But, wiping biterness aside, I will finally get onto my questions. Cody- you say that you feel awful for the way you played and you didn't really want to play that way and it's not who you were. So, A. why did you play that way? B. I think you're full of crap. C. If you aren't full of crap, then why don't you "embrace" it like you said you did. If you are embracing and proud of the way you backstabbed everyone then why do you feel bad for it? D. Tell me three different occasions in which you masterminded a plan to vote someone out and how did you feel when they went? I want some good details... I don't want a simple. "It felt good to get Payne out" You fooled me for most of the game, I'm sure you are good at using descriptive words by this point. Andi- I'd like to now know the true story about Jia, since your lies about it were so rediculous. I also want to know a full list of all the people you had made alliances with and then next to their name, the reason why you voted for them when it was time to disregard them. Well, you two did it. You made it as far as you could. Good job! I know that we'll be kicking back at the reunion and drinking a corona on whoever wins! Good luck you sneaky snaky sleezoids! May the best person win!
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Post by Cody on Jul 3, 2008 8:56:02 GMT -5
Since you think I'm full of crap to begin with I'm going to just cut right to answering your questions.
A. I realized from day one that being honest with everyone and letting them know the way you felt about everyone wasn't going work. Everyone came into this game way to close. I know that most of us already had deals going into the game with at least half a dozen people. If you not deals then you at least were pretty good friends with a few people who you knew you could trust. My being honest with everyone worked the first few rounds. We voted out Matt and Sebastian no problem. The first time I didn't keep my word is when I voted out Andrew. And as a well seasoned player you know that one lie in this game and you have to start making up more to cover up the last one. I'm certainly not happy I had to lie and I do feel bad for it but hey it got me final two this time and got me final three last time. Why not do it? C. I'll be the first to tell you: My strategy in any game is to lie and backstab if I have to. I've said it a thousand times I don't like doing it but when you have to do it to keep yourself in the game you will. So I do embrace my style of game play but at the same time I'm sorry that I have to hurt so many people doing it. The reason it is so hard for me is because I get so attached to people. That is why I said that there is a game me and a personal me. The game me is ruthless and mean and terrible. The personal me is nothing like that. I told several people that I hated voting people out because I generally like everyone. But you can't take everyone to the final two.
D. My first big masterminded plan was to vote Matt out day one. It was the first chance for me to strategically see how well I was at aligning myself with people and testing their trustworthiness. When he left it really showed me that I still had a little bit of game. I had pulled off the first blindside. My second big mastermind didn't come until probably Torah. After the whole kitchen challenge in which I trashed everyone's kitchen for the heck of it she got really mad at me. Then a few seconds later she turned around and was making sure she had my vote. I felt like I was being used by her and if there is one thing that I don't like its being used by people. So I talked to a couple of people pulled in Andi on the vote and we voted her out. When she left I did have remorse I have remorse voting out anyone but the fact that I felt she was using me was enough for me not to completely regret the vote. Now if she was really using me or not I have no idea I guess we will find that out after the game. Other than that there was no other person who's 'voting out' I masterminded. I kind of just set back at that point and let Andi call the shots. I guess if anything I masterminded voting you out but thats only because I was the only person who voted.
I'm sorry also that you don't think you got to know the real me. It does really hurt me to think that other people in this game think the same way. Like I said in my opening statements. When I was talking game with you I was being strategic in everything I said to you but when we were talking about our personal lives like things we were doing in school, places we had been, our families, and jobs I was being myself. The person who does really want to get to know you and be your friend.
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Post by Briidget on Jul 3, 2008 9:43:50 GMT -5
Don't know if I can respond to this, but it wasn't your idea to vote out Matt. It was your idea to keep Piper around because she could be a hinderance, but Tom and I were the ones who decided on Matt and pushed for him to go.
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Post by Cody on Jul 3, 2008 10:09:19 GMT -5
Ok then so apparently I didn't 'mastermind' voting Matt out but I still played a part in organizing it and strategizing with both you and Tom.
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Post by MATTHEW on Jul 3, 2008 15:02:11 GMT -5
LOL OH NO LYING ABOUT IT
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Post by Torah on Jul 3, 2008 21:41:53 GMT -5
I was never using you. my plan was us four to the end and you knew that.
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Post by kenyon on Jul 3, 2008 23:17:10 GMT -5
This is my question people!!!! LOLZ
Thanks cody!
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Post by andii on Jul 6, 2008 0:30:18 GMT -5
I had a feeling this question would be asked and well it should be asked. What happened was that after the results for the survey challenge came out Lorii and I started talking. I’m sure if you looked at the challenge you saw Lorii and I got nominated for all the not so great categories and at that point we decided we wanted to work together. I know I was upset with the outcome of the challenge because honestly how can I not lie to save my life, but still be the best strategist and the physical threat? I’m not sure how that works out, I know at the moment my actions spoke longer then words. I guess it just comes down to the point that Lorii and I wanted to prove people right. I mean if the survey was right, people thought we were threats in the game, which meant we should probably start working together and watching each others backs. If they wanted bitches, they were getting bitches. The only way to make everything come unglued was by taking out someone that everyone felt was honest. If you look at the survey, Jia was the voted most honest and we felt threatened by that, or I take that back, I felt threatened by that. That is when I started to look at Jia as more of a threat in my eyes because are strategy seems too similar. Well then, Lorii talked to Matthew and I talked to Cody and Donna. Also, to add it was Lorii’s idea to target Jia first, I don’t want to take credit where it isn’t mine.
Anyways, long story short, I knew I couldn’t beat Jia if it came down to the two of us in the final two. I opened my eyes to the idea at hand and I knew I had to do what I had to do. I was playing for myself and I was going to be ruthless. This really wasn’t a story of me hating her or anything [sorry to disappoint anyone]. It just came down to the fact that people I thought I was aligned with people who voted in this survey and I just freaked out and started planning with Lorii. The big downfall of the plan was Kenyon finding out. (: Yes, and I was getting IMs from just about everyone when everything went down. People were freaking out saying don’t change your votes and what not. You probably would have thought WW4 started. [No, WW3] (: This probably was one of the most dramatic moments in the game for me. I set at my computer and tried to talk my way out of it basically, but at the end of it all I knew Kenyon and Jia were both voting for me to go home and they also had a mystery vote which I do believe was Donna. Anyways, Jia went home and I stayed. It worked for my game and it was probably one of the biggest moves in the game. Also, I am not taking all the credit for this move because it was not all my idea.
Oh, love this question. So, alright, it has been awhile since I’ve talked to some of these people, so some of this might be blurry in my head, since you are asking me to go back to day one naming alliances. Also, you have got to remember, before the merge I only got to really vote off two people and then there were those challenges that were thrown back to back. First, off I think it might be easier if I named the people I didn’t have an alliance with at all. Here is a quick list of them and then I will get back to the question.
People I had no alliances/promises with: Kyle, Sebastian, Keisha, Tom, Ashley, Kimber, Piper, Sammi, and Rich.
Alliances/Promises I had with people
Matt – When he came into the game late, I felt bad for him because he had such a late start at playing I felt, so he asked me for an alliance, but then again, didn’t he ask EVERYONE for one? (: And I didn’t vote him off. John – I’m not sure if we really had an alliance, but we had an understand with each other. I voted him out because he seemed to know what he was doing and he took charge a lot. KJ – KJ was someone I wanted to align with from day one because I loved her personality. So, we made a three person alliance and then she got voted off shortly after that. I did not vote her off. Morgan – Morgan wanted to do the all girl alliance and I was just kind of like alright. So, the alliance basically was over half the girls in the game. I voted Morgan out because she wasn’t playing this game for herself. She was playing it for Tom and I didn’t agree with that at all. Keisha – I was aligned with her, but we never talked about it or anything. It was the girl’s alliance thingy. I didn’t vote her out either. Andrew – Oh, the good old days of Taranis. Andrew and I made an alliance right away at the very beginning by picking and adding the people that we liked. I did not vote Andrew off either. Taylor – Taylor was another pre game alliance I had made and I didn’t vote him out. Deighton – I’m not sure if we really had an alliance or more of an agreement with each other. I know there was something, but once again I didn’t vote this him out either. Torah – I had a final four with Torah, but Torah was a big threat in my book. I voted her off because I thought she was fake and that she was probably playing me in the game. Also, that I could never have beat her at final 2. Mike – I honestly, don’t ever think we talked about being aligned, but I got told by other people that I would have been in the final 7 or something like that. I voted you out because of the fake conversation that I got shown and because I thought you didn’t trust me at all. If we didn’t have trust, there was no reason for you to stay. Payne – I was aligned with Payne was day one in a final four. I figured since Hawaii didn’t work out for us that this was just another chance to start over. I voted Payne out because he targeted me first and he was a major threat in the game. Bridget – Bridget was also someone that was included in the final four with Payne and Cody. Bridget and I have talked since after I was kicked out of Hawaii. I voted Bridget out because she was the other vote against me and I really don’t think I could have beaten her at the final two. Jia – Jia and I had started the game off at the beginning with an alliance that had a couple other people in it and then we stopped talking, but then we started talking around the time of the whole Payne being voted out situation. We also had a final two and a final four. The reason I voted Jia off was that I couldn’t beat her at all at the end of this game. She had played a much better game then I had by far. Lorii – Lorii and I had a final four and a final two agreement. The reason I voted Lorii out was because not only was she going to come after me the next round, but Lorii is sneaky. I love the sneakiness. Matthew – Matthew and I had an alliance way back on Taranis with Andrew. We were going to stick together, but the funny thing is after the tribes got all mixed up I felt like I didn’t see Matthew over half the game until we got to the end. Then at the end he was in a final four, but we never talked about it. Also, we promised to watch each others backs. Matthew you should be proud, you’re the ONLY person on the jury I did not vote off. Donna – Donna and I started working together around the time of the mutiny switch saying we would watch each others backs and what not. We really had no real alliance until like it got down to the final eight. We both talked and we made a final two alliance. The reason I voted Donna off was because you lied to me about voting with me the round Jia left. I know you made that vote up and you went back deleted it and then you voted me. Sneaky Donna. Kenyon – Kenyon and I had gotten to know each other in the months before All Stars because we had both been casted for another game together. We had a final four and a final two agreement. I didn’t vote him off. Cody – Cody and I have been working together since day one. We both knew how we wanted to play the game and alls I can say is that it worked.
I’m sorry in all this information if I left anything out because I really had to reach way back in my head to even write all this.
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Post by kenyon on Jul 6, 2008 10:28:58 GMT -5
Wow.. u were busy in this game... Thanks andi...
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Post by MATTHEW on Jul 6, 2008 16:06:07 GMT -5
<3
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