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Post by kyle on Jun 16, 2008 18:40:43 GMT -5
Wtf... every sentence was like "STATEMENT... but it's probably wrong" lol
also dating? i'm confused
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Post by Sandy on Jun 16, 2008 19:01:51 GMT -5
My two cents: Kyle, for some reason it shocks me that you never heard Richard's name come up for that first council you went too. I would have jumped on voting Richard as soon as I heard his name. I feel like that was a good chance for you to stay, agreeing to vote him, because I remember Bridget being adament about Richard leaving. When that half couldn't get enough votes to oust Richard, I think the vote switched to you for lack of a better choice. Andrew, the round you left there really was no stopping it. From the drama that happened the round before, and Taylor escaping the vote - you were doomed. You made a big deal about Taylor in that chat, then failed to follow through with ending his game, basically. If Taylor was voted out, and Sebastian stayed - Tom would have been a Bottom Feeder, and Sebastian would be on the Supreme Team. I think that would have set you up in a MUCH better position. So it wasn't my twist that screwed you...it was your actions right before the twist that screwed you. Taylor, I agree with Tom in saying you fucked up right when you agreed to align with KJ. First off, she so much more likeable than you lol. Also, she hated you in Cambodia and was the main reason for you vote off. Why the heck would you align with her? I understand it might have been surprising to people if you two were, in fact aligned, but I dunno..you were WELL aware of the target in your back. You knew Tom and Payne were big targets as well. Why you didn't want to blend with them is beyond my belief. From that moment forth.. you chose an uphill path, instead of a straighter and more narrow one It was after that round that you started to become a target, started to dodge bullets, and ultimately gained so much negative attention that the people who could have been great allies no longer wanted to be associated with you. *tear* Also Taylor, you could also blame Kimber for telling Tom everything you told her about what went on on Bucca. That's what started the whole thing I think.. Tom, how I was shocked when all of a sudden people started voting you. Yes, I knew that round Matthew made the Immunity safelist chain thinggy, that I've seen you in better positions. Still, I didn't actually think you'd be pin-pointed so soon and so quickly. All the Triforce talk did more damage than I imagined. I have to mention Kimber once again here because I remember a conversation with her where she bitched in her language about Torah and Tom wanting Andrew out, not listening and voting for Kenyon like she wanted lol. Well, Kimber being vindictive didn't forget that. She mutinied, then called out the alliance Torah invited her to when the tribes merged again. That was one of the best moments this season. I think all that combined led to your demise Tom. Yeah, I was bored while watching people do this challenge. I will add others soon. Ashley, Kimber, Piper, Sammi, Torah..etc etc
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Post by Mike on Jun 16, 2008 19:06:06 GMT -5
Alright, I will explain my vote more further cause. First of all, my first thought of the tribal council, I wanted to get rid of Richard instead, not just cause we never talked, but I secretly wanted to try to keep the Segomo tribe intact. But the thing is, it wasn't me, Jia, and Cody that named you, it was Kimber. Just the sole fact that you and Richard were on the minority side of that round, it would be a death sentence to vote with you guys, cause it would have still been a 5-5 vote, you still had the chance of going home. If there was drama after a split vote at the begining of the game, who knows what would have happened if a split vote came. And Cody and Jia I had an alliance with, but i also had a HUGE HUGE partnership with Kimber (thats right, there, I said it) and in terms of the two, they were equal im my eyes. So after Kimber exposed you guys better than Andrew and Taylor (sorry you tried, but she wins that title lol), and me being her closest ally, voting for her would be thee worst thing to do.
And secondly, in terms of Triforce, when Taylor exposed it, I thought it was outragious at first but very very possible. But after Andrew was voted out........I knew that the Triforce alliance was true. I wasn't mad, but I was disappointed that no one in the Triforce alliance let me know that Andrew was the definate vote. When Kimber told me that Torah was all for voting out Kenyon, I definately sided with Kimber and tryed to keep Andrew safe, thinking we could get more people to vote with him easily. The fact that no one told me about the vote is definately being Andrew, and having me and Kimber voting for him, I really really felt left out, hence why I mutinied, cause I knew me and her were next if we didn't leave.
Now what does this part have to do with your vote off Tom??? This is it..........I really don't want to play the "why didn't I get invited to the birthday party" card, but its very very true. After Andrew's vote off, he told me that there were ALOT more people in Triforce than he thought there was. And with me being left out the vote, I was saying to myself, why did no one in that alliance ask me about joining triforce. You did say that you wanted Segomo to stick together, yet never mentioned one word to me about Triforce and I thought I would have been asked before other people in Segomo. Being left out of Triforce, but always talking about Segomo sticking together, I felt that I was being used by you so Triforce would go further into the game, and knowing me, I do not take lightly to being taken advantage of. So I ask the question, will being in this game with Tom, will he stay true to his word about Segomo, or would he stcik with the Triforce alliance, and would he stab me in the back if I went with him. Not only that, but the fact that you were alligned with Payne, someone that I had very bad vibes with since day 1, and my gut feeling being true at the end, and the fact that Bridget is the most fake person I have met in an online game, I would not have wanted to even be associated with those people. I asked the question who do I trust more to help them out and who will return the favor by helping me out (and premerge it worked cause I gave Jia immunity and she gave me immunity in return, now THATS trust). And at the time when Kimber has done sooooo much more for me than anyone else has in this game, I chose to side with Kimber and hope that us 2 would make an even stronger alliance with Jia, Cody, and anyone else that is afraid of Triforce and to strart a revolutionized resistance team against them. And if the tribes were divided in 2 ways instead of 4 ways, I really think that this game would have been extremely different. So your perspective may see that I made the dumbest move, but I saw it as a move that would give me protection and get me further into this game. And that was the case cause from your vote off to my vote off, I had alliances with Kimber, Jia, Cody, Kenyon, Sammi, and unspoken alliance of me and Piper (according to Kimber XP) And then during right before the merger, I made a good alliance with Lorii and Matt and really hoped for a Jia, Lorii, Matt, and Mike for a final 4 turnout cause we all helped each other out in the end. My biggest mistake was targeting Donna cause of the idol instead of just Bridget, and trusting Andi too much.
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Post by taylor on Jun 16, 2008 19:11:50 GMT -5
It is easy to say from the host view. I just didnt trust any of them plain and simple. I trusted the others more than I did the people who I never spoke to. I contemplated it, but it just didnt seem right. I like to blame my uphill battle on the confrontation at the first merge, or whoever started it.
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Post by Sandy on Jun 16, 2008 19:14:09 GMT -5
It is easy to say from the host view. I just didnt trust any of them plain and simple. I trusted the others more than I did the people who I never spoke to. I contemplated it, but it just didnt seem right. I like to blame my uphill battle on the confrontation at the first merge, or whoever started it. Yeah of course it's easy to say from a hosts view. I'm just giving my two cents yanno. From how each of you played, the moves you made, I've seen it all. I'm just saying where I think y'all went wrong and stuff.
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Post by kyle on Jun 16, 2008 19:27:20 GMT -5
Sandy you're right. I did know Richard was a target that round but honestly, I felt closer to him than the rest of the tribe (other than Deighton who I was going to the end with). I honestly didn't think he would never show up and I held up hope and then it was too late and everyone completely ignored me. I never thought he would not have showed up or I definitely would have gone to the other people and offered voting Rich out. And then I saved him for the next round too by giving KJ the 2 votes (had Deighton vote with me) so he better be thankful lol.
The funny part was Rich self-voted so they would have had enough votes anyway. I just didn't want to get that cutthroat that early on and that's what cost me.
Also I was the stupid person who said the first name (KJ) and already being a pharaoh and doing well in the first challenge... probably made it look like I was going to be a problem later... which I would have been and I would have def. been on the side of the random hodge-podge crew because they didn't have some insane hierarchy that I wouldn't be able to infiltrate.
I didn't even have anything against KJ, it was just that Taylor & Rich both TOLD me they wanted her out and Deighton would have voted with me. I picked Tom figuring he would vote that way too since I knew he & Rich were friends. I still feel really bad I took KJ down with me when she did nothing wrong (other than ignoring me when I tried to talk to her about the vote and change it lol). Also I was mean to her & Taylor in my TC question which was funny... not realizing they are POSTED. I thought it was some private thing.
Basically I should have just laid low or at least told people I'd vote Rich but what I REALLY should have done is... picked a better tribe
I should've just picked 1 or 2 easy boots... what the hell was I thinking lol... got overconfident since I have never been voted out so early and I "forgot" it was even possible lol
also shoulda picked Sammi & Donna who would have voted with me
I was basically just flying by the seat of my pants not even thinking about what I was doing lol
That was maybe confusing and maybe no one cares since I was gone so quick but whatever, skip over it lol.
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Post by Sandy on Jun 16, 2008 19:33:36 GMT -5
LMAO Kyle. Yes..you and John both shoulda picked better tribes
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Post by taylor on Jun 16, 2008 19:39:23 GMT -5
I read it all Kyle
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Post by andrew on Jun 16, 2008 19:52:20 GMT -5
My two cents: Kyle, for some reason it shocks me that you never heard Richard's name come up for that first council you went too. I would have jumped on voting Richard as soon as I heard his name. I feel like that was a good chance for you to stay, agreeing to vote him, because I remember Bridget being adament about Richard leaving. When that half couldn't get enough votes to oust Richard, I think the vote switched to you for lack of a better choice. Andrew, the round you left there really was no stopping it. From the drama that happened the round before, and Taylor escaping the vote - you were doomed. You made a big deal about Taylor in that chat, then failed to follow through with ending his game, basically. If Taylor was voted out, and Sebastian stayed - Tom would have been a Bottom Feeder, and Sebastian would be on the Supreme Team. I think that would have set you up in a MUCH better position. So it wasn't my twist that screwed you...it was your actions right before the twist that screwed you. Taylor, I agree with Tom in saying you fucked up right when you agreed to align with KJ. First off, she so much more likeable than you lol. Also, she hated you in Cambodia and was the main reason for you vote off. Why the heck would you align with her? I understand it might have been surprising to people if you two were, in fact aligned, but I dunno..you were WELL aware of the target in your back. You knew Tom and Payne were big targets as well. Why you didn't want to blend with them is beyond my belief. From that moment forth.. you chose an uphill path, instead of a straighter and more narrow one It was after that round that you started to become a target, started to dodge bullets, and ultimately gained so much negative attention that the people who could have been great allies no longer wanted to be associated with you. *tear* Also Taylor, you could also blame Kimber for telling Tom everything you told her about what went on on Bucca. That's what started the whole thing I think.. Tom, how I was shocked when all of a sudden people started voting you. Yes, I knew that round Matthew made the Immunity safelist chain thinggy, that I've seen you in better positions. Still, I didn't actually think you'd be pin-pointed so soon and so quickly. All the Triforce talk did more damage than I imagined. I have to mention Kimber once again here because I remember a conversation with her where she bitched in her language about Torah and Tom wanting Andrew out, not listening and voting for Kenyon like she wanted lol. Well, Kimber being vindictive didn't forget that. She mutinied, then called out the alliance Torah invited her to when the tribes merged again. That was one of the best moments this season. I think all that combined led to your demise Tom. Yeah, I was bored while watching people do this challenge. I will add others soon. Ashley, Kimber, Piper, Sammi, Torah..etc etc very true. lmao, the taylor drama continues to haunt me. ah well, my apologizes for the inaccuracy.
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Post by kyle on Jun 16, 2008 19:52:33 GMT -5
LOL thank you taylor :-)
But yeah I just was having too much fun picking the tribes I really wasn't thinking about what I was doing. I just tried to pick strong people and that's where I stopped thinking LOL. And then that challenge *shudder*. Should have picked Donna because she would have rocked that challenge for us and would not have voted me out lol.
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Post by Piper on Jun 16, 2008 20:08:57 GMT -5
Omg are you really using taylor targeting you as a answer? My god he targeted me and you don't see me running around like my head was about to be chopped off!! I held my shit together.
god I need to stop lying.
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Post by taylor on Jun 16, 2008 20:39:48 GMT -5
huh? I never targetted u Piper lol
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Post by Piper on Jun 16, 2008 20:50:18 GMT -5
You said it to my face you did!!! So much for a clean game!!!
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Post by taylor on Jun 16, 2008 20:56:37 GMT -5
I am so confused. Why would I say to ur face that I was targetting u? lol. I always viewed u as an ally. Why would I target you after our friendly convo at the first merge where u helped me stay alive?
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Post by Piper on Jun 16, 2008 21:00:05 GMT -5
*whispers* You know the Morgan thing!!!!
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