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Post by kyle on Jun 17, 2008 12:43:42 GMT -5
I hated Piper before I talked to her on AIM so I'm sure I'm not the only one lol.
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Post by Sammi on Jun 17, 2008 12:51:51 GMT -5
Yaah most deff Kyle. Btw <3
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Post by Piper on Jun 17, 2008 14:48:17 GMT -5
Wow you guys sure know how to hurt a girls feelings!!
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Post by ashley on Jun 17, 2008 15:00:43 GMT -5
i dont hate you piper but seeings as how were 2 girls from hawaii there will always be some sort of competition between us i believe but competition in a good way
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Post by Piper on Jun 17, 2008 16:07:16 GMT -5
Thank you Ashley!! I do love our friendly rivalry!!
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Post by Morgan on Jun 17, 2008 16:15:42 GMT -5
Piper I feel you were the turning point of this game, had you been voted out before things might not have turned quite as they did. For once I might still be around and I think Tom and perhaps Taylor would be as well.
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Post by Mike on Jun 17, 2008 16:35:04 GMT -5
True, people do like you don't get me wrong, but that doesn't mean you were alligned with the right people (in my eyes). You had prick Payne, fake ass Bridget, nobody Richard, conceited Deighton, and manipulative Torah (I luv ya Torah X3). Being in an alliance with all of them would be have been extremely cancerous with my play, especially with my personality and interests not connecting to them. The majority of the anti-triforcers would have gone after me, and you CANNOT tell me that if I did not mutinized, that you would not have voted me or Kimber out of this game. Whether you might not see so, I was on the bottom of the list of allies and if I sided with you, you would have all voted me out in the end. Ya also gotta take into consideration that I played Sandy's game 4 years ago and I started this game knowing no one (with the execption with you two years ago and knowing of people in the game. And not much information given to me. The same was for Kimber (a game 2 years ago but still a long time). So with people thinking who to trust more, someone you know is a threat, and someone you really have no idea how they played this game.
You didn't invite me to Triforce, you even said yourself that you were leaning towards Triforce to the end, thus I was not your priority. Kimbers priority was keeping me safe, she even gave me the answers to the immunity that I won that I gave Jia to, i didn't even ask her for answers, she randomly PMed me them. You would have never given me answers to an immunity without me asking. In other words, you DID NOT gauretee me safety on Taranis when and after Andrew was voted out, or any other point after that. Kimber offered me an alliance with me long ago and offered to work with Sammi and Taylor to keep us two safe. I trusted her and was alot safer with her than with you. If you wanted me to side with you, you should have let me in Triforce from the begining, then I would have trusted you more, yet you didn't give me any offers or even mentioned the name Triforce to me.
And the last thing to point out, according to Andi and Cody, if I decided to target someone other than Donna at that Tribal council, I would have still been in this game. Cody himself said he expected me, him, and Jia in the final three with both of them taking me to the final 2. Of course its all words, but if I did not make that one mistake of targeting Donna, our final 7 plan between me, Jia, Cody, Lorii, Matt, Kenyon, and Andi would have been more committed if we decided as a group to target Bridget or Richard.
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Post by Piper on Jun 17, 2008 17:52:10 GMT -5
Yeah morgan. I think the problem was siding with the people that were on the other tribe.
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Post by Tomm on Jun 17, 2008 18:07:46 GMT -5
yet you didn't give me any offers or even mentioned the name Triforce to me. Haha, that made me laugh: "mention the name Triforce to me." Just to say this for the millionth time, but "Triforce" is the most corny annoying nickname I have ever heard and I refuse to ever say it again or have it said in my presence! Looking back on the game, I really can't fault you too much for making the moves that you did Mike. I definitely should've made more of an effort to stay connected with you, and I did not. Call it cockiness, call it whatever you want. I really did think that if anyone in my posse were to be targeted first, it would have been Payne, so I was hoping that that would buy me some time if things did go sour for my side. If Richard and Payne had switched spots in that double-tribal round, Mike, do you think Payne would have gone over me? Or was I just doomed no matter what at that point? I enjoy hypotheticals.
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Post by Tomm on Jun 17, 2008 18:23:22 GMT -5
True, people do like you don't get me wrong, but that doesn't mean you were alligned with the right people (in my eyes). You had prick Payne, fake ass Bridget, nobody Richard, conceited Deighton, and manipulative Torah. And don't you get me wrong either, but I could make fun of you and all the people you aligned yourself with as well. You were widely considered a nuisance, Kimber a psychopath, Cody a floating nobody, and Jia a fake. People connect with other people for whatever reasons. To say it's stupid to be friends with certain people is just a stupid thing to say.
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Post by Mike on Jun 17, 2008 20:47:25 GMT -5
Comming from me alone, I really have no clue depending on what the others wanted on the tribe. But if it was between you and Payne, I would have put more effort in to save ya and try to get others to vote Payne. And I think with Kimber on the tribe, it would have worked cause there was soooooo much of a horrible past against him, had many enemies, and I had bad vibes with him since day one, and if it was with you against him, I really think you would have been in this game longer.
And in terms of who we allign with, it really does depend on peoples perspective on other people and how we think the game should be played. And its not like I never gave the others chances to connect with, I spoke with as many people in the game possible on numerous occassions, and then pretty much see who I click with the best. I don't try it to do it on purpose, it just kinda happens. And Kimber was a cool psychopath X3.
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Post by john on Jun 17, 2008 23:37:39 GMT -5
LMAO Kyle. Yes..you and John both shoulda picked better tribes Yeah, I don't know who the fuck voted me into that Pharaoh spot in the first place. If I hadn't been picked I coulda just gone unselected in the draft and ended up on the Slave Tribe and probably been alright. I think my biggest mistake there was picking Andrew. I think I took him first too and it was for some really fucked up reason like cuz he was the one person on at the time or something really dumb. I think I should have picked Deighton even though we didn't have an alliance or anything, he just seemed cool.. I was gonna take him and all but then Kyle did right before I was gonna which sucked. It seemed from all reports that Andrew was the main advocate in pushing to get me out so yeah... bad call in that regard. My picks were all pretty lousy. Apart from picking folks that voted me out, I seemed too concerned at the time with just trying to pick people I thought would help win a challenge. I had no idea who anyone was so there were no potential allies in the mix right away. The only people I had even heard of were Sammi (known for about a year, reliable), Andrew (played VERY briefly with him in Survivor Envious... maybe talked to him two or three times that game), and Mike (oh gosh, four years ago, can't say I remembered him too much). I probably should have taken a goat or two like Sebastian who maybe would have stuck out before me as someone to go. I have no idea though I coulda avoided this one though. It seemed to have that feel that I'd a been damned anywhere I went.
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Post by Sandy on Jun 17, 2008 23:56:24 GMT -5
It seemed to have that feel that I'd a been damned anywhere I went. Of course as a Fijian I was rooting for you John. I felt this way about your position too. Good question was, how the hell you were selected Pharaoh...maybe Andrew can answer this one? On the slave tribe you'd definitely woulda had a better shot. They won twice in a row I think.
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Post by andrew on Jun 18, 2008 9:05:00 GMT -5
How John won the Pharoah power, I'll never know. I was pushing hard for me to win, as I knew what that would result in me gettting to pick the tribes (likely that's why they didn't vote for me, lol). Why John, I'm not sure.
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Post by Paayne on Jun 18, 2008 10:48:39 GMT -5
Haha. Oh you people who are saying I was using Bridget or Bridget was using me are sorely, sorely mistaken. I doubt anybody but us two know the depths of our relationship. There shall certainly be surprises at journal opening! Anyone wonder how I found out every single thing that went on in the game? Torah, I knew about your power the moment you told her. I found out about Andii and Cody's powers, I knew about Taylor and Andrew wanting me out, I knew about Jia being Steph (plot twist!) Muahaha!
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